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Roundtable on Insulation

Brendan O’Neill, Posted 05/17/2010

MA: Why should a metal building specifier choose one type of insulation over another?

Mike McLain, General Manager, Bay Insulation:
There are several critical issues that must be considered before making this decision. What is and/or what might be the "end use" of the structure? Will it be conditioned, semi-heated, unconditioned or a low energy building space. Each of these conditions as well as the geographic location of the structure will determine the thermal performance requirements of the building envelope. The performance requirements of the roof and wall envelope will determine the various solutions that are available and applicable. These solutions each have their own features and benefits the least of which is satisfying the code and standard requirements. Other features regarding economy, installation, appearance and durability are also considerations.

 

Dan Harkins, CEO, Thermal Design: Design build contractors and architects should first determine what the most economic energy design is for a particular building and use. Nearly 100 percent of the time, maximizing the installed thermal performance utilizing fiber glass insulation is the best and least expensive option. This is easy to do with structural member depths of eight to 10 inches in depth. An installed R-30 or better can be easily achieved. This does not mean compressing the insulation, but installing it in a manner that maximizes the installed thickness and installed thermal performance. Installing the insulation in a compressed manner is simply a waste of time and resources and does not result in any significant energy savings, nor collateral savings of other systems. Many owners are misled that simply paying for more insulation and installing it results in the corresponding performance increase. This is only true if the insulation is installed at the proper installed thickness and sealed effectively. Any system that creates the space for the inexpensive fiber glass insulation to fully expand and isolates the conductive metal framing members from the conditioned space will perform well. The direct result of achieving good insulation performance is about a 50 to 60 percent savings in HVAC equipment, gas piping, wiring circuits, etc. Bright white colors also result in 25 percent or more savings in lighting equipment, wiring and lighting energy use, which often are the largest energy use in metal buildings. Generally, upon careful analysis, the savings of HVAC, lighting equipment, wiring, etc. offset most or all of the added cost to insulate properly to the higher level.

For any specific use, there are typically several choices to be made for various end use reasons. Products suitable for the particular use first must be selected. Then, a life cycle economic cost vs. benefit analysis should be done with the suitable products to determine the most economic of the qualified products to use. In all designs however, the installed performance claims of the product is what is relevant and only those should be considered.

Products which make advertised performance claims based upon "back of the truck", "to the job site", or have warranties which are void when a product is installed are products that should be avoided. Products that don't perform, that do not have detailed installation instructions on how to achieve the advertised "installed performance claims, or that do not provide advertised" installed performance claims" should not be even considered. Advertised "installed performance claims" provide protection under federal and state laws for the purchasers, installers and users of the products. Always use products that publicly advertise the verified installed product performances for the particular method of installation and that provide detailed instructions of how the product is to be correctly installed to achieve those advertised performances.

Do not use products that cannot be honestly relied upon for the proper sizing of HVAC equipment, lighting equipment, and other collateral design criteria which rely upon the "installed performance" of the insulation products and methods selected. If there is one rule that designers should use, it is this: "Only consider reputable products and companies that are advertised across state lines and warrant the installed performance of their products." There is a reason why some products avoid such claims and that is that they are not reliable or do not perform as advertised after installation. Product sellers need to stand behind the installed performance and they need show installers how to properly install their products to achieve the predictable and advertised level of installed performance from each such product. If the performance can't be relied upon, then it is impossible to properly size design the optimal related systems such as HVAC, lighting, electrical, etc.

 

Blaine Bancks, LEED AP, High-R Insulation Systems: The biggest question is, 'what's the intended use for the building?' If it's going to be a cooler for flowers or something like that, you're going to have to have a building envelope that is well insulated. If the space is semi-conditioned for dry storage, then you can do minimal insulation. But that's why you have to choose different systems-it depends on what you're doing with the space.

MA: What are the newest innovations in insulation for metal buildings?

McLain:
The newest innovation is thinking of insulation as potentially having an impact on the structural design of the building in particular when it comes to secondary bracing details and techniques.Consideration must be given to provide larger unencumbered spaces to install more material and assure expected levels of recovery in order to optimize cost and performance. Insulation is all about saving energy. A metal building with a standing seam roof that is properly insulated with an integral daylighting solution will provide the owner and occupant with years of reliable service that will offer an innovative solution to the performance expectations that exist today and well into the future.

Harkins: Innovations in insulation systems and products are products that provide multiple functions and warrant the installed performances. Single products not only provide thermal insulation, but also provide finishes, light reflectivity, acoustical absorption, installation safety, high quality vapor barriers, air infiltration barriers and reinforce the structural systems of the building's roof and wall systems. Often, the synergistic benefits come at little added cost and typically result insignificant collateral system savings. It is not unusual for superior energy efficient buildings to actually cost less to build than the energy obsolete designs. It is all about informed design. The sum of the cheapest components is NOT the lowest cost building to build, own and use. People that think this is the case are doing a great disservice to their customers and are building energy obsolete buildings, needlessly polluting the earth.

Bancks: Spray foam is not brand new. Cellulose or fiberglass is not brand new. What we're seeing is the hybrid systems. For example, we do spray foam; we do different systems beyond High-R. I think the newest innovation is to use the whole 'buffet' of products out there. I know everyone is concentrated on sustainability,but it's all about energy savings; the best management of resources. There are a lot of different things you can do now, where it used to be, 'Oh, you want fiberglass? Or, oh, you want cellulose?' And that's what you got for the whole thing, along with the advantages of that system-and the disadvantages. Just because you chose a single system. Today, you can mix and match different systems, and our guys can do it all. I don't think there are any real innovations; it's just the way they're being used.

MA: Where are the growth markets for insulation?

McLain:
Insulation can no longer be evaluated as a stand-alone component of the building. Its role must be re-evaluated and challenged to do more than provide a thermal barrier, it must also be used to reduce or eliminate random air infiltration.

Harkins: Growth for insulation in metal buildings lies in simply changing outdated design practice from 'the sum of the cheapest components' to the 'lowest cost of ownership.' This change requires designers to consider the optimal performance of the entire building and include energy cost. Maximizing the installed performance of envelope insulation is the foundation of all energy-efficient metal buildings. Surprisingly, the savings from correctly designed HVAC, lighting, wiring, service sizes, finishes, etc. typically more than offset the added cost of properly insulating. If contractors are not installing eight inches or more of 'in-place insulation thickness' in the roofs and walls of their conditioned buildings, they are likely producing an energy-obsolete building design.

New products and methods of insulating buildings with systems that provide multiple functions can be extended to all types of commercial and industrial building types such as truss building roofs, bar joist roofs, pre-cast concrete roofs and walls, etc. Variations of these same systems are adaptable for these other building types and result in superior energy efficiency and collateral benefits and savings effectively displacing older design practices. For example a bar joist roof system with a simple membrane roof covering with an R 50 insulation in the roof structure itself with a bright white acoustical ceiling surfaces exposed to the interior and a vented attic space all for a significant savings over current design practices incorporating very expensive above deck rigid insulation. High performance wall products are also available that perform better and are much less costly than insulated pre-cast panels.

Bancks: Retrofit. What we're seeing is that with the codification changes, here in Iowa there's a big push for fire stations, etc.-anything municipal-and they're having a contest for who can be the most energy-efficient, and that includes upgrading a building's insulation. With the economy, I've seen it where a building was foreclosed-it was an old lumber yard-and these new owners are coming into this metal building with not a stitch of insulation and having High-R put in there, and it's going to be climate controlled to be a distribution center for some pretty high-dollar products. The intended use changes, and because they bought it fora song, along with the rebate money out there with the local utilities, it makes financial sense to retrofit these buildings, and that includes upgrading the insulation.

MA: How does insulation contribute to a metal buildings being considered green?

McLain:
Insulation is at the very core of the green building movement. It can be the least expensive component of the project, and have the most significant return on investment with respect to building a sustainable structure. Certainly there are other green initiatives that can be adopted by metal buildings and conventional structures. Light density fiberglass is still the most economical solution to the ever increasing demands being placed on a building's performance and impact on the environment.

Harkins: Insulation systems play a major role in green buildings by leveraging the performance benefits of variable individual system components to create synergistic savings in collateral systems. For example, making the interior surface 85 percent light reflective rather than 50 percent saves a tremendous amount of lighting equipment, wiring, maintenance, energy, etc. Obtain such savings with four or five different building systems and the buildings actually can cost less to build and operate. Another example is the bright white ceiling that no longer needs to be painted saving 50 cents or more per square foot of surface area.

Bancks: Take for example the LEED program. In order to be LEED certified, you have to do your prerequisites, and then you have to do your credits. One of the prerequisites is energy-efficiency. So that's how metal buildings become 'green.' Of course steel is a very good way to go, from a natural resource standpoint, and you can use recycled materials and pretty cost-effectively build a structure. But when you tie in the building envelope insulation, it makes that a very efficient environment; a very comfortable environment, and everybody wins. The occupants are happy, thermal comfort expectations are met; when the building owner looks at his monthly bill, it's much less than if it wasn't properly insulated or if you take a minimalist approach. So, the overall value of the property is enhanced, and insulation is a huge part of that. You've got to stop the transfer of energy to control your space, control your budget and you'll have happier people.

MA: What affect will the new codes and regulations have on insulation for metal buildings in the near future?

McLain:
In terms of the next few years there will certainly be a higher level of demand placed on the thermal performance of all but the low energy building spaces.

Harkins:New codes and regulations will essentially correct the overstated performance of obsolete methods which have been grossly misrepresented as to their installed performances by industry in the past. Nearly every conditioned metal building that has been constructed since commercial energy codes have been enacted due to the Energy Policy Act of 1992 do not meet the thermal performance intent of the energy codes because of incorrect modeling and non-representative thermal performance testing. Most of these false performance values are being corrected in the new energy standards and dependent codes. Any methods that continue to be misrepresented will not go unchallenged by parties interested in honest representations of all products. The effect of the correction of the performance values of various methods will be a paradigm shift from obsolete methodologies to methods and products that actually perform as represented. Ironically, increasing thermal performance can be done at little or no added cost. This has been true for nearly 30 years as Thermal Design has been doing this and teaching contractors how to do this. This change to representative "installed" thermal performances will be a major advancement for pre-engineered metal building industry.

So we see the paradigm shift to products and methods that actually perform being something that should have happened 25 years ago, but for the overstated performance claims of compressed insulation products. We predict that liner systems will quickly take over the market as the preferred and least expensive methods to insulate metal building roofs and walls. The collateral savings offset the added cost of superior insulation making them cost no more than the obsolete building of the past. Thermal Design is the leading expert in liner systems technologies and has all of the expertise needed to help designers specify and construct buildings that are super energy efficient for little or no added cost.

The paradigm shift is that compressed insulation will not meet new minimum thermal performance requirements and new methods must be employed that actually perform. About 95 percent of the conditioned buildings will not get permits issued nor pass energy code requirements without using products that actually perform. We predict that there will be a greater demand for metal buildings because of their superior energy performance for essentially no added cost.

Bancks: ASHRAE wants to change a lot. They don't just want to take a step; they want to take a leap. That was all supposed to be finalized this past January and it looks like they're backing off on some of their loftier requirements-some of it is unrealistic. You can only go so far. I think there has been some careful consideration by people in the metal building industry and insulation, working together to have a realistic approach to what the code should be. We can always improve, but to say in another five years was want another 20 percent-I don't think it can be done. The best time to do it right is the initial time. You can go back and retrofit some things, but not everything, and not cost-effectively. The new codes are making insulation a very important aspect of metal buildings.

MA: What advancements do you expect to see in the insulation market over the next year or two?

McLain:
The 2010 ASHRAE standards will be published and adopted across the country and be the basis of many commercial energy codes. However, the adoption of every aspect of the standards will probably continue to meet with mixed results when comparing state to state. Some states will take a more aggressive posture, others not. Currently five different releases of the ASHARE standards are in play across the country.

Harkins: Major changes will take place in the insulation market and the entire metal building industry as the new energy codes move requirements beyond the capabilities of the traditional products and methods. Also there will be more accountability in the installed performance mandated which will create major consequences for designers and contractors that do not produce conforming installed systems. Existing traditional methods of insulating metal buildings have been proven to perform significantly less than advertised, and they have not met the intended minimum thermal performance requirements of existing energy conservation codes.

Building permits will likely not be issued in the near future for buildings using those traditional methods and products. Building owners will refuse to pay for their buildings if they do not at least get one that meets the minimum code requirements. It is not known at this time how the millions of buildings will be fixed that have the poorly performing, misrepresented products used in them.

Contractors should be aware of the consequences of using products known not to perform as represented, such as 'over-the-purlin' and 'sag-and-bag' metal building insulation methods 'Filled cavity systems.' Also known as 'long tab systems,' these systems do not perform well and have serious safety concerns, practical installation issues and condensation problems associated with them.

For example, proponents of faced insulation claim that installers will feed the laminated insulation under all of the bracing between the purlins and slice the vapor retarder facing upward on both sides around each purlin brace so the long tabs can be sealed to the tops of the purlins and then mysteriously have the sliced long facing tabs somehow patched from the underside up around the braces with tape. In actual practice this will likely never be done, and even if it could be accomplished, it would not likely offer an effective seal or permanence as tape almost always releases over time. Filled cavity / long tab insulation assemblies will most likely be compressed over the braces with severe loss of thickness and performance and will not comply with the minimum thermal performance requirements of the energy codes. So unrealistic claims have been made to get obsolete products and methods past the point of sale, but which will likely never perform as claimed. This is just another misleading claim being made to preserve the old paradigm. Even the full thickness of insulation installed in a filled cavity" or "long tab" insulation method is unlikely to meet new code minimum thermal performance requirements even without bracing interference. The state of the art for insulating metal building roofs and walls are Liner Systems like Thermal Design's Simple Saver System which is designed to be practical, inexpensive and perform well.

Bancks: The energy thing will not go away. Alternative energy is important- I think we are going to have alternate sources, but still, whether you use wind or oil, you want to be as efficient as possible because there's still that cost of production, delivery, etc. The energy issue is going to be here from here on in. We're going through the 'awareness' phase, and soon we're going to change from awareness to 'implementation.' I think you're going to see people implement the technology that's available as far as insulating a building-whether it's metal, wood or masonry-to be more energy efficient. It's all going to adhere to the new codes which will raise the bar. And it will make spaces better for the occupants, so I think it's a win-win and it will be improved in the long-term.

MA: What sets your company apart from your competitors?

McLain:
Many of the products we offer are available in the market from other sources. Our expertise resides in the ability to recommend the appropriate solution. We are the only company in the entire industry that offers the widest breadth of products and services supported by a consultative sales force that will assist those in the decision making circle of all the options and their potential impact. We are concerned with the entire building envelope and in addition to providing the broadest array of insulation methods and solutions, we provide exterior doors with urethane cores, insulated head and jambs, windows and have daylighting solutions for the industry.

Harkins: Thermal Design's Simple Saver System has been developed and constantly improved to provide the ultimate in synergistic benefits to the designers, installers and users of the product. With 30 years of research and product development. Our products do not have added urea nor formaldehyde compounds which have been shown to be offensive, toxic and very likely carcinogenic. Thermal Design recommends only the use of high quality, quick recovery, JM Formaldehyde-free fiberglass insulation with its advanced acrylic binder. This product costs a little more than other fiber glass products, but will not off-gas a urine odor if exposed to high humidity or gets wet.

The Simple Saver Systems are ASTM C 1363 hot box tested. Our company and it's licensed distributors will be providing all of the Synergy Design services that designers and contractors need to optimize the energy efficient design of their buildings, considering all collateral systems. We also have developed and offer special high efficiency HVAC products, lighting fixtures, control systems, energy management programs, safety and security products to make the whole energy system of the building into one inter-working whole building system.

Thermal Design has mastered the art of energy efficient, whole building design and construction of metal buildings. We are now adding the power generation products of wind generators and solar panels to our product offerings to make "Net Zero Energy" use buildings. We have our first 20,000 square foot Net Zero Building under construction and it should be completed by June 30th, 2010.

While competition is just now bragging about discovering liner systems as their own inventions, we have been mastering these for thirty years and no one does it better or safer than Thermal Design. Thermal Design and its licensed distributors will provide the services and products to design and build the lowest cost buildings to build and operate for the building owner.

Bancks: We try to offer a good/better/best approach. We try to offer the best solution to the end user that is available. We want to be a resource and problem solver for our customers. That's the culture here. Become that resource; be that problem-solver; slow down and listen. What does that customer want? What are the objectives that need to be met? That approach will get us long-term business.

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